Then you’ll want to listen to my most recent podcast for the The Making Magnificence Project® where I talk with Brad Wilson, CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina, about leading through times of uncertainty, surrounding oneself with dissent, and how he sets priority and direction.

Go here to listen or download the interview.

If you’re leading through turbulent times and want to turn uncertainty into innovation in your organization, you can reach me at: for a mutually exploratory conversation.